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I hate the "Nowell is Isaac's daughter" theory. I really do

on 2012-03-22 07:01 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vampirenaomi.livejournal.com
Same here. I just, ugh.

on 2012-03-22 07:27 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com
(On impulse and because I'm apparently a sucker for attention, I posted something similar to tumblr, and now I'm afraid I'm going to get dogpiled. There's no use pretending that I didn't say it.)

The theory has no basis in canon, and it seems like it only exists so that angry Mudshippers can comfort themselves. Someone wrote a fanfic with Nowell as Isaac's illegitimate daughter a while back, and I think that might be the reason for this theory's existence (or at least more people supporting it). The wasn't bad, actually, but I just found that part to be too hard to swallow. The plot was about Isaac and Mia being afraid to get together years ago because of political tensions between Imil and the Warriors of Vale (and how Matt shouldn't be afraid to go after Sveta, lest he repeat his father's mistakes). Honestly, I think it would have been a much more effective fic without the part about Nowell shoehorned in (and now that I think about it, I kind of want to leave a review saying that. Of course, I'm afraid it will come off as me being on an anti-theory rampage...).

For the record, the "mireia is a hypocrite" tag is due to the fact that I've believed even stupider theories before (like thinking that Drago/Jade was actually going to be canon back in the day) and because I'm writing something crackier (though without illegitimate daughters). Someone at the Temple of Kraden proposed a scenario where Matt, Nowell, and Rief were all siblings and they got their parents back together a la the Parent Trap. I...actually wouldn't mind reading that, provided that whoever wrote it didn't villainize Jenna. D:
Edited on 2012-03-22 07:28 pm (UTC)

on 2012-03-22 07:31 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vampirenaomi.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's my exact reason for not liking this theory. It just seems like it's shippers grasping at straws. Granted, theories can be fun, but I think that in this case there's no other justification for it than wanting Mudshipping to have happened. Since we know nothing about Nowell, I can't see a single other reason why this idea would be interesting or worth anyone's time.

on 2012-04-01 08:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com
(oh hay i see you found my tumblr)

on 2012-04-01 12:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] shadow-milotic.livejournal.com
Silly shippers, desperate for validation. But I'm sure they'll lose interest in the idea eventually... Though now I kinda want to see Mia's husband in GS4 so that their baseless ideas are crushed completely.~ ...I am a mean person. DX

on 2012-04-01 08:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com
I want to see him assuming it's not Kraden, lol just so we can get some closure as to what the hell happened those last few years. Certainly there would still be some people going "b-but affair!" or "she just married to cover up the pregnancy!" even if he showed up. :/

on 2012-04-04 07:57 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] shadow-milotic.livejournal.com

But yeah, there will always be people who believe what they want to believe, even in the face of damning evidence. Hell, that's how Mudshipping stayed so popular for so long in the first place. :awe:

on 2012-04-05 05:36 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com

Well, I mean I still don't think it's unreasonable for people to have hoped that Isaac and Mia would have ended up together, but the people who seemed shocked that Vale had any chance of happening make me wonder if we even played the same games.

on 2012-04-05 03:28 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] shadow-milotic.livejournal.com
I know, right? You can't deny the existence of something so blatantly obvious!
Edited on 2012-04-05 03:35 pm (UTC)

on 2012-07-30 03:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hoa-dao.livejournal.com
Hi, I'm tofukitten at tumblr. :3

I've... never heard of this theory.

Well, okay, I have, but is it that prevalent? Tumblr hasn't given me that impression. Maybe this sentiment is elsewhere... 'cause, frankly, tumblr's GS fandom is quite nice compared to other places XD Not that I stuck around long enough to know what's prevalent.

For example, I never knew how hardcore shipping is. With 6 years between GS2 and GS3, though, I can see why Mudshippers are sad (and still sad?)

I actually did like Isaac/Mia, so I understand why it's appealing. So it makes me sad when I see Mudshipping fanart, because I can hear the screams from the fans XD (that is, I feel sad not because it didn't happen, but because of the fans. XD)

on 2012-07-30 06:08 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com
Hi! :D

It's a common theory at all, but it still cheeses me off every time I see it because it's such blatant fanwank with no evidence in canon. Mudshipping was plausible, but the fact is that Isaac hooked up with Jenna, and I think that some Mudshippers just need to get over it. I've had OTPs that ended up getting shot down and I have pairings I dislike become canon, so I understand why people are angry. Still, I think it's kind of ridiculous after two years. Besides, we don't even know whether Isaac and Jenna are still married, so you can still make an argument for Mud without ridiculous theories.

...Of course, maybe the main reason why I get so mad is because I ship Vale. I guess in the end I'm not as above the ship wars as I like to think I am.

on 2012-07-31 05:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hoa-dao.livejournal.com
I've always been a canon person, so you could say I ship Isaac/Jenna anyway XD;; I never gave Isaac/Mia much thought beyond "aw it would be cute XD" and GS never gave me much to go by in regards to romance.

I like to think I'm above ship wars. This is mainly because I was never in a fandom long enough to witness any. -- I loved Harry Potter, but I never entered any communities; the Avatar series flew by me due to lack of cable (and now that I sae it last year, I don't get the Aang/Katara vs. Zuko/Katara thing...); I'm not in the Korra fandom, exactly, and there were serious writing issues anyway, from all the good wall-texts I've seen; my other obsession, Generator Rex, lack what I would call a ship war 'cause, IMO, people hated the canon pairing anyway so in my eyes they just agreed to ship the main with whomever they want as long as it isn't with that bitch :P.

This turned into a wall-text. What was I talking about??? LOL ~~

I've always been a canon person, so I smile and nod with the non-canons. I don't dislike non-canon-- I think some are very sweet (I'm not very picky on relationship types as long as they're not squicky or seriously abusive- like, I mean, pathologically(?) abusive with no hope). I just don't really invest myself in non-canon all that much XD (there are some exceptions, esp. those like Felix/Sheba XD)

That being said, I go into fits of mental sobbing when I find someone, anyone, who dislikes a canon (half of my Generator Rex tags here in LJ involves a female character I love, who is hated (unpopular, anyway) by a good chunk of the fandom--she's the one the main hooks up with eventually ^^;;)

ahh I just ramble, don't I? >o

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